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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 3, 2008 10:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: update

" i just still CANNOT vote for that quack Obama though."

You have kids Dire. So what you're saying is that you want the FUTURE of this Country, which IS education, being potentially headed by the person who believes we should teach that the Earth is 6000 years old as valid science? The person who has actually said that the founding fathers wrote the pledge of allegiance and including one nation under God? The person who has a degree in journalism?

I can perfectly understand reservations against Obama but I would never question his intellect as that of a crackpot or quack.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 3, 2008 10:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: update

i dont doubt his intellect - that is not what i meant by "quack" - it has to do more with his political stance and ideology.

i also dont have an issue with having both creationism and evolutionism taught together. neither has been proven or disproven to any extent (i believe it is a combination of the two). i never read she felt kids should believe the earth is 6k years old - maybe i missed the quotes.

i just dont trust obama's economic policies or his experience.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 3, 2008 12:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: update

She has advocated teaching creationism in school and I have a HUGE problem with that. I'm all for teaching comparative religions to kids but people like Palin don't look at it that way, they want religious doctrine in the public school system. F*CK that! If I want my kids to be brainwashed I'll take them to church myself. Evolution etc. is a THEORY and should be taught as such. BUT it is a theory based on the scientific method which is THE most rational means we have that I know of to study test and observe our Universe.

As far as economic policy we'll just have to disagree but I definately don't trust the guy who claims he can balance the budget in the next four years. The same guy who has previously stated the economy isn't his strong suit. A comparative study of a non partisan tax group has examined both policies and guess which one is going to give my family the bigger relief?

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 3, 2008 12:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: update

i never read it as she wants to give creationism the heavy hand, but i may be incorrect. lord knows that is my strongsuit - lol. you are far more familiar with her than I (not sarcasm).

i dont believe there is a such thing as non-partisan tax studies. figures can be manipulated differently by many different individuals. if i TRULY believed Obama would save me tax money, i might persuade myself to vote for him. although his inexperience does worry me. (yes, i know Palin is a heartbeat away)

i just have a gut feeling Obama is PURE rhetoric.



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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 3, 2008 1:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: update

her Religious stance didn't way too heavily on me because on the local and State level there's not as much to worry about. The Federal courts would knock anything extreme down not to mention Alaskans tend to be VERY libertarian which is usually fine by me. But having her potentially being in charge of education and Supreme court justice appointing? NO WAY

" i dont believe there is a such thing as non-partisan tax studies. figures can be manipulated differently by many different individuals."

True to on the latter but tax codes are tax codes. Loope holes are loopholes and the only people that I know of that have the smoke and mirrors to take advantage of loopholes are people with a lot more money than anyone I know has. The regular deduction is what the rest of us have.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 3, 2008 3:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: update

agreed

but how confident are you that your regular deduction is going to be enhanced by the party that is historically known for taxing its citizens to pay for other programs. (yes, i know reps do this too - but nothing like the dems have done - sorry, i'm for taxachusetts - we know the horror)

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 3, 2008 3:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: update

I had a long winded reply but I don't want to bore everyone. Let's just say that Republicans have WASTED a TON more money in corporate giveaways. Exactly where do you think that money is and will come from? We're already seeing no funding for Federally MANDATED programs like no child left behind. Everybody's bitching about the cost of education but no one is addressing that.MANY were argueing who should pay while tons of people DROWNED while no one did shit about it to help but yet no one seems to question what we're spending money on that has been " lost" in Iraq because questioning our Government means we're terrorists.

I'd rather my taxes stay the same and the money actually go someplace that benefits our society. But that makes me a girlie liberal man I guess.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 3, 2008 4:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: update

"I'd rather my taxes stay the same and the money actually go someplace that benefits our society. But that makes me a girlie liberal man I guess. "


color me that too - i just wish it would go to our kids and social good (not handouts). totally agree with that comment - totally.

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Poster: Bob Gnarley Date: Sep 3, 2008 4:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: update

I'm all for handouts. I'm voting Obama, quitting my job, and then I'll kick back and ride the dole. The only bummer is that the band will be paying higher taxes. Wait!, they could become non-profit and play free shows. I knew Barry was the messiah. Free lunch and Ratdog!

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 3, 2008 4:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: update

" color me that too - i just wish it would go to our kids and social good (not handouts). totally agree with that comment - totally. "

that's because regardless of who we vote for ( for whatever reasons ) we're allmost all the same and in the same boat. I've Always believed that.

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Poster: spacedface Date: Sep 3, 2008 12:23pm
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Thank God you're not against Obama because of his Irish heritage!

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 3, 2008 12:27pm
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he's irish!!!! fuck that man, i dont want no Mick in the oval office. good lord!!!!!!


;)



(i should know, i'm irish)

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Sep 3, 2008 12:30pm
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Why did God create Whiskey?






So the Irish wouldn't take over the World

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 3, 2008 12:38pm
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It had no impact on certain Irish performers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxCM9dellRs

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Sep 3, 2008 12:42pm
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They don't look like they are in any condition to take over the world though!!

Pretty funny vid